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Ferrari appeal rejected

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20/04/2023

The FIA has rejected Ferrari's request that the penalty meted out to Carlos Sainz in Melbourne be reconsidered.

The Spaniard was handed a 5s time penalty following his clash with Fernando Alonso at the restart. The Italian team was unhappy that the Spaniard was punished for a clash that was subsequently erased from the history books by means of the decision to restart the race again with Alonso back in the position (third) he had been in a the time of the incident.

Meanwhile, though Sainz restarted in fourth, with the remaining lap effectively a procession to the flag, the penalty meant the Ferrari driver dropped to 12th in the final standings.

In order for the penalty to be reviewed Ferrari had to provide a significant and relevant new element which was unavailable at the time the original decision was reached, according to today's hearing no such information was provided.

The official statement reads as follows:

The Stewards of the 2023 Australian Grand Prix have received a letter from Nikolas Tombazis, Single-seater Director of the FIA, attaching a petition by Competitor Scuderia Ferrari dated 6th April 2023 under Article 14 of the FIA International Sporting Code ("Petition"), seeking a review of the Stewards decision no 46 made within the framework of the 2023 Australian Grand Prix and requesting that the Stewards:

"consider such request and to make a determination whether or not a significant and relevant new element exists (Article 14.3 of the Code) in relation to the decision/incident".

The Stewards, after having extensively considered the matter, including examining the annexures to the Petition and the available telemetry, summoned and heard the team representative(s) namely Laurent Mekies, Fred Vasseur and Carlos Sainz (Document no. 58) and determine the following:

Decision

There is no significant and relevant new element which was unavailable to the parties seeking the review at the time of the decision concerned. The Petition is therefore dismissed.

Reason

Our decision that SAI was in breach of Appendix L, Chapter IV, Article 2 d) of the FIA International Sporting Code for causing the collision with ALO was made in-race (Document no. 46). We decided that SAI was wholly to blame for the collision.

We considered the fact that this collision took place at the first corner on the first lap of the restart, when, by convention, the Stewards would typically take a more lenient view of incidents. However, we decided that notwithstanding that it was the equivalent of a first lap incident, we considered that there was sufficient gap for SAI to take steps to avoid the collision and failed to do so. We therefore imposed a 5 second time penalty.

The Petition contends that there are new significant and relevant elements, which were unavailable at the time of our decision being made (and presumably, had we had the benefit of these elements, we would not have made our decision).

Three elements were relied upon:

a) the telemetry data of SAI's car after the second restart (annexure 4).

b) SAI's witness statement (annexure 5); and

c) other driver's witness statements (annexures 6 & 7), which amount to records of post-race interviews given by ALO (annexure 6) as well as other drivers (annexure 7).

The Competitor says that there is precedent for these matters being considered new significant and relevant elements. It points to the Stewards' Decision dealing with the petition by Sahara Force India F1 Team seeking a right of review as a precedent for the proposition that the verbal testimony of a driver and relevant telemetry can amount to a significant and relevant new element.

The factual circumstances of the Stewards' Decision under review in that matter are quite different to those here in this matter.

The Sahara Force India F1 team matter involved a post-race hearing into an incident (in other words, it was not clear to the Stewards who was at fault for the collision in question). The Competitor's driver was not available to attend the hearing because he had been taken to hospital following the incident. The hearing proceeded without the ability for the Competitor to speak with its driver to obtain a version. That happened after the hearing and the driver's version put a different light on the facts that had been put to the Stewards.

The distinguishing feature here is that our decision was made in-race. We deemed it unnecessary for us to hear from SAI or hear from any other driver to decide that he was wholly to blame for the collision. A decision that we, and other Stewards panels, routinely take and are encouraged to take, when the cause of the collision is clear and there is a need for time penalties to be issued as quickly as possible.

Further and in any event, we also find as follows:

1. Telemetry: The telemetry data (annexure 4) of itself is not a significant and relevant new element required to decide who was at fault for the collision. The Stewards have access to a considerable amount of telemetry data. We were also in a position to access such data. The telemetry data presented in the Petition is at best ambiguous and in our view did not exculpate SAI but in fact corroborated our decision that he was wholly to blame for the collision. He says he braked harder but could not stop the car because of cold tyres. He states further that a slow formation lap contributed to the cold tyres.

There are two short points. First, even if that is true, the presentation of telemetry showing his braking point is not a significant new element for the purposes of Art.14. Second, the conditions of the track and the tyres was something that every competitor needed to take into account and adapt to. In trying to brake late while racing GAS, he adopted the risk that he, as a driver, would lose control of his car. In this case, that risk materialised, with the consequence of a collision that ensued, for which a penalty follows.

2. SAI's written witness statement (the document itself) is not a new significant and relevant element required to decide who was at fault for the collision. First, had we thought that this required a statement from SAI for us to analyse the event, we would have summoned him after the race. We did not consider it necessary then to hear from him to decide that fact. His witness statement, in essence, states how poor the grip was (we have dealt with why that is not a sufficient excuse above) and how the sun was in his eyes. But logic would dictate that the position of the sun would have equally impacted other drivers too. It is not a justifiable reason to avoid a penalty for a collision. The witness statement is therefore not a new element either.

3. The other drivers' statements are not new significant and relevant elements required to decide about the incident (none of the statements contained new significant and relevant versions about the collision). These statements were all records of post-race statements given by the drivers to the media. These were presented to corroborate their position that the grip level was low and that the tyres were cold.

Again, while these statements were made subsequent to our decision, and therefore could not have been present when we made the decision, nothing stated in those comments were significant or indeed relevant to our considerations. This does not satisfy the requirements of Art 14 either.

We accordingly dismissed the Petition.

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1. Posted by ancient70!, 21/04/2023 7:41

"@kenji. Which is why I have stated elsewhere, it should be illegal to apply time penalties at or near the end of a race, and, heaven forbid not after the race. Which is why I think time penalties suck for F1. It works for sports-car event, which take place over a longer time frame. This tends to make the time penalty less severe, yes you can still lose a win or podium, but you wont suddenly find yourself at e back of the field."

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2. Posted by kenji, 21/04/2023 1:17

"@Ancient70...whenever a time penalty is introduced the final position drop becaomes abitrary given the finishing order and the closeness of the field. A sad fact, not fiction. "

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3. Posted by ancient70!, 20/04/2023 7:10

"Now who would have expected this outcome?? shame! I have no problem that Sainz got a penalty, but was a 8 place grid drop the correct one ??? "

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4. Posted by kenji, 19/04/2023 1:50

"@KKK....The conditions were the same for all drivers/cars. Some drivers drove to the conditions and didn't crash, others didn't and paid the price. Sainz was one of those. Tough but correct. "

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5. Posted by phantom, 18/04/2023 19:50

"Going by the second paragraph (re: telemetry), if they applied that logic to every incident there would be so many penalties that would make the proceedings a joke. Oh wait . . ."

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6. Posted by gator, 18/04/2023 18:05

"All I hear is more crying from Ferrari, why can't they build a competitive car. Again doing testing how fast the car was, at the first race failure. Trying to reverse a decision will not improve performance.
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7. Posted by KKK, 18/04/2023 17:40

"It should never had been a standing start, cold tyres and brakes. A rolling start would have been better. Again , a knee jerk reaction by the stewards. It should have been discussed before applying the penalty. Totally unfair."

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8. Posted by Mad Matt, 18/04/2023 16:04

"While I agree with @rambler that more consistent stewarding is needed and that there was no independence in this review, I have to say that you can't fault their logic. Much as I tend to like Carlos it was his mistake and he was just unlucky with when it happened... time to move on."

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9. Posted by rambler, 18/04/2023 15:26

"So, the same people who handed out the penalty say they are right? Was it ever in doubt they would? Would the same people admit they were wrong?
An appeals process should involve a panel looking at both the incident and the stewards decision. The good thing about the decision was made quickly during the race. Instead of five too six hours after the race.

Once again though the FIA and F1 need trained, experienced stewards! The teams and fans should demand it!"

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10. Posted by Pavlo, 18/04/2023 15:01

"Good so.
Still I don't understand how Sargeant got away with more serious mistake."

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11. Posted by kenji, 18/04/2023 14:44

"Please please please please please please ...oh merde!!!!"

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12. Posted by Max Noble, 18/04/2023 13:40

"World continues to orbit sun. Titanic did sink. Hand of God did give Maradona goal. Christopher Nolan makes entrancing movies. Oh Look! Someone used cash!"

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13. Posted by kenji, 18/04/2023 13:31

"As forecast...."

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