F1 trivia quiz

D-Type · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 00:56 Post subject:

The Brabham BT39?

But why did Luca di Montezemolo punch Max Mosely?
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francisn · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 01:00 Post subject:

Well done D type - now own up did you know that or did you have to look it up?

Shant F · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 01:46 Post subject:

Unfortunately I've never been able to find a comprehensive answer to that. All I know is that it was after a particularly heated argument in pitlane. But use your imagination - they were both team managers in the seventies, cameras weren't all-pervasive back then. I'm pretty sure Stoddart would like to deck Ronzo given half a chance.
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francisn · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 01:57 Post subject:

Hah! And how many would like to deck Stoddy?? Smile

D-Type · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 02:27 Post subject:

Yes I did look it up. Embarassed

My question: name the drivers who have won a national grand prix in both a rear-engined and a front-engined car.
(I can think of six)
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francisn · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 02:49 Post subject:

Is this Modern F1 - ie post 1951?

Sean Brian Kirby · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 05:15 Post subject:

Well, I did set a precedent for its being grand prix history, as opposed to just F1 history. Not a bad precedent, I don't think. What say y'all?

Sean Brian Kirby · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 05:18 Post subject:

Dan Gurney, Jack Brabham, Graham Hill, Phil Hill, Jimmy Clark, Wolfgang von Tripps... um... Stirling Moss! (This is off the top of my head...)

Sean Brian Kirby · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 05:19 Post subject:

(Shoot! I don't think Jim Clark ever won in a front-engine. I know the others did... well, maybe a little shaky on von Tripps... But like I said, off the top of my head.)

Rob · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 07:04 Post subject:

Stirling Moss, Phil Hill, Maurice Trintignant, Tazio Nuvolari, Achille Varzi, A N 'Lex' Davison, Joakim Bonnier.

Sean Brian Kirby · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 07:32 Post subject:

How could I forget Nuvolari?!? And I was wondering about Trintignant. I am pretty sure Gurney is in that list too, though...

Sean Brian Kirby · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 07:35 Post subject:

I don't know if Varzi ever won a national grand prix while with Auto Union...

Great question. Very Happy

Rob · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:06 Post subject:

Sorry, my stupid book refers to the Tunisian GP instead of the Tunis GP.

francisn · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 13:23 Post subject:

well I can only find Moss, Phil Hill and Von Trips as having won in front and rear engine cars in the modern era. remember we are only talking about 1957 - 1960.

So the only others would have to be those that won in the Auto Unions and also a front engioned car - pre war.

haven't had a chance to check those yet.

That of course is unless my interpretation of a national GP is wrong.

Of course you might alos want to count the Alfa Romeo Bi-Motore which was of course both front and rear engined Smile

D-Type · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 14:20 Post subject:

Well, Rob has given the answer I intended:

Moss (obvious)
Trintignant (Monaco 1955 and 1958)
Phil Hill (Monza 1960 + various 1961)
Jo Bonnier (Zandvoort 1959 + 1960 German GP, a Formula 2 race he won in a Porsche)
Nuvolari (Auto Union etc)
Varzi (Auto Union etc - rightly or wrongly I took the Tunis race as a national GP)

I didn't consider the Australian GP's as they were formule libre so I missed Lex Davidson. I also excluded sports car races and reckoned that so-called grand prix races run for Formula 3 cars didn't count (eg Luxembourg & Portugal)

I don't think there's any others. I don't recall Gurney or von Trips winning in front-engined cars, I checked out Jack Brabham and as far as I can see, his wins in the Zerex Cooper-Bristol didn't include the Australian or NZ grands prix. If you consider the Indy 500 a 'national GP' I think that AJ Foyt or Parnelli Jones might also qualify. Paul Frere won a pre-championship South African GP in a Cooper but I don't think he had any front-engined GP wins.

Unfortunately I couldn't find a win for the Alfa Bi-motore to bring it into the question.

I reckon questions regarding prewar grand prix racing are fair game. Szicz, Nuvolari, Varzi, Chiron, Wagner, Caracciola, Lang, Rosemeyer, Muller, Neubauer, Scuderia Ferrari, and all raced just as hard as their modern counterparts. Remember the first Grand Prix was in 1906 (or 1901 if you split hairs finely enough!), there were FIA formulae for grand prix racing prewar, but not called 'Formula 1', Formula 1 or Formula A started in 1947, The CSI Grand Prix World Championship started in 1950, and the FIA Formula 1 World Championship started in 1981 (I think), the 1952 and 1953 World Drivers' Championships were for Formula 2 cars, and there used to be non-championship Formula 1 races.

Your question, Rob
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