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TokyoAussie
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Force India nose reminds me of a dolphin more than anything else, but my choice for most hideous goes to Ferrari. It looks like a total afterthought, and surely must offend most Italians' sensibilities. Imagine a hump like that on a road-going Ferrari, and F1 cars are supposed to be the sleek-looking machines.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's always a bit difficult to pin-point, how much, in which team, technical director and chief designer each contribute.
Patrick Head was Williams TD since forever pretty much, but designers changed over time. Newey was there in mid 90s only.
I remember that walrus nose for example was when Gavin Fisher was CD, but I remember that a lot of credit for that was given to Terzi (I forgot her first name, yes, it's HER Smile).
She was in charge of aerodynamics, but I wouldn't know what the exact title was.
I suppose those two were also there for a previous year (2003), which can be considered highly successful in terms of a car performance.
I mean, to be honest, they have been at the sharp end of the field since 2001, all the way until 2006. If you remember, even 2005 started decently, although not as sharp as 2002 and 2003, but still respectable.

I don't know when exactly Sam Michael became TD, but I suppose, that was not crucial.

We can only guess what was the cause of their troubles, but I suppose they never recovered from BMW's departure. Those two should have known better than to split up.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 08:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brace wrote:
Newey was there in mid 90s only.


Newey joined Williams in 1991, recruited by Patrick Head, he left in 1996 and after some gardening leave joined McLaren for 1997.

He is widely credited as being responsible for the 92, 93, 94, 96 and 97 championship winning cars.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 13:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small reminder; don't pay too much attention to the times...

http://www.pitpass.com/37027-Hamilton-leads-the-way-on-final-day-with-pictures
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 13:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh absolutely jim, but I'm still taking heart in the fact Kimi is 'not slow'.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's quite a good measure of 'is the car a disaster or not'.

Lotus could well be very fast, they tend to jump out the blocks well every year since about 2003.

P.S; Name is Donald. Username is Jim because my friends and I used to use "Jim" as a synonym for "some random punter". Pretty stupid 8 years later or whatever.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 14:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaah I was just shortening your user name Laughing
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Jon notbutton
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bringing this thread back to the new car launches and my conclusion is that the Merc has the best looking nose of all the "stepped nose" deigns but it is still not as pretty as the Mclaren.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 19:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed Jon. It does look better than most of the "Prost" noses. It almost looks like its designed that way, rather than having the new nose design added at the last minute, wich unfortunately seems to be the case for most other teams.
Is it my imagination or are the front wing supports twicw as deep as on the other contendenders?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 13:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall last year talk of an "F duct" style development on the Merc (found some pictures somewhere on the web).

At first glance I thought that the W03 front wing supports looked to be countoured in such a way as to allow air to be fed (back) through them and directed to the front wing.

However, if this concept works, they don't seem to be using it or they don't seem to have found extra speed from it so far.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 17:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

McLaren and RBR looked pretty nailed on right now.

I feel it could be a pretty tight start to the season.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 23:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wins for both Merc drivers... Pray
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 19:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the usual suspects fail to show up at testing!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 19:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon notbutton wrote:
And the usual suspects fail to show up at testing!


HRT need to be sorted out, they missed testing last year and then made a mockery of the first race, by using it the weekend (well practice and qualifying) as a test session. I don't quite understand what their problem is, is someone not telling them when the season starts, and testing begins, or what? In the past we have seen teams expelled from the championship for not making a good enough effort, how much longer will the HRT farce be allowed to continue?
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easy_rider
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 23:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anfield5 wrote:
Jon notbutton wrote:
And the usual suspects fail to show up at testing!


HRT need to be sorted out, they missed testing last year and then made a mockery of the first race, by using it the weekend (well practice and qualifying) as a test session. I don't quite understand what their problem is, is someone not telling them when the season starts, and testing begins, or what? In the past we have seen teams expelled from the championship for not making a good enough effort, how much longer will the HRT farce be allowed to continue?


Indeed, it's not good enough that this has happened for three years in a row. In horse racing there are rules against "schooling in public" and something similar will be slapped on HRT if they carry on like this.
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