Here We Go Again

[Abb0nz]

Sometimes I truly think F1 would be better off without Ferrari. Well, maybe better off without some of the windbags that Ferrari seem to have at the top of their organization.
Here,
http://www.pitpass.com/45154-Di-Montezemolo-F1-must-change
...we have yet another thinly veiled threat that without Ferrari F1 would be nothing. It is becoming very boring. Ferrari aren't having it all their way so they start to get all uppity and threaten to throw their toys out of the cot.

Would F1 survive without Ferrari? Of course it would. Would it be the same? Probably not, it might be better!

My message to Ferrari... stop all this childish behavior. Play with what you have and with whom you have to play with and get on with it. Enough of the pathetic stomping of the feet and whining. It's getting old.
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A Kiwi living in the USA

[F One]

My thoughts exactly.
Imo Ferrari need F1 an awful lot more than F1 needs Ferrari.
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[White Lightning]

Would anyone but the Tifosi care? It's all about McLaren v Red Bull now, as long as Big Girl's Blouse and the Hamilton Magnet are in the seats.

Ferrari are just a bit boring now. Even their road cars are dull.

[sportsman]

[solarflare]

I like this reference to slow cars getting lapped soon after the start of a race.

You're not telling me lapped cars is a modern phenomenon, Luca? Noone got lapped in the 1961 GP you mentioned?

If anything I bet a statistical analysis will show that the spread of laptimes across the grid is a heck of a lot smaller now than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago etc., so I think that point is complete nonsense and rather eradicates the "we NEED third cars" argument.
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Life is.....the gap between Formula 1 Grands Prix

[Burton]

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"One minute you're defending the whole galaxy, and, suddenly, you find yourself sucking down Darjeeling with... Marie Antoinette and her little sister."

[SkidMarks]

with all this anti Ferrari rhetoric, can I just prod in a mention for those of us with a sense of history?

Yes, they always shout about what is best for them, unlike any other team.
Yes, their boss can spout off, unlike any other team manager/ex team manger.
Yes, Formula 1 would exist without them, but audiences would drop and it would just be Formula 1, not Grand Prix.

Back to the harsh modern world. Does anyone seriously believe that Bernie would pay them extra if he didn't think it worth it?

[moonrover]

Like it or not they represent the tradition of motorsport of Italy.
personally prefer multi-culture F1, to gather all history of motor race in a circuit..
for example imagine if england...or germany is omited here...
but I can understand that some gestures are beyond pathetic..

[MatCoch]

[solarflare]

[Anfield5]

I do agree with some of his (luca di) comments, but the way he uses thinly veiled threats of Ferrari withdrawing (taking their toys and going home, comes to mind) is quite pathetic.

Yes F1 needs Ferrari, just as it needs McLaren and Williams (to a lesser degree).

Yes it would be bad for F1 if the core teams pulled out.

But in either of these scenarios F1 as a sport would adapt and continue on it's merry way

Ferrari wouls also survive without F1, but again it would be damaged. Ferrari (as proper Lotus used to) uses F1 as an effective marketing tool and the phrase what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is quite apt
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[gourami]

I wish McLaren, Red Bull (DM is certainly the guy who could pull it off), Williams and Ferrari would get together and form their own WC - or shut up.

F1 should be in control and pay back the sport, not highly leveraged merchant banks... we're all paying for it... we're all paying directly through ticket sales or indirectly through consumption of the sport.
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Watching F1 since 1998... trackside at Silverstone, Shanghai and Melbourne.

[TokyoAussie]

More sabre rattling from Montezemolo. The teams, no doubt, have gripes about money sharing, and always will have. Everything he said may or may not be important, but I tune out completely every time Monty rolls out his 3-car idea. I hate the idea.

[bewildered_jim]

2009 (and maybe parts of 2011) illustrated that F1 without Ferrari works fine.
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[Gary]

I love all this. Ferrari has always been pure opera and so it should be, springing from the same country as Verdi, Puccini, Donizetti, Rossini et al.

And Luca... well he was trained in the art of dramatics by Enzo Anselmo.

Older followers of motor racing will recall the Old Man's fulminations in 1964 when the FIA declined to be browbeaten by his attempts to have the 250LM homologated as a GT car despite the build numbers being far below the minimum required by the regulations. Not for the first time, he threatened to leave racing... I believe he might have even sent back the Scuderia's racing licence at one point. And then, with Surtees in with a chance of taking the 1964 championship, he went all out to offend his country by causing his cars to be entered by NART and painted in the blue and white of the USA for the final two Grands Prix.

Forza Luca! You carry on the tradition well. Your mentor would be proud of you!